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Podcast 232 – “Fisher, Stolaroff, and Al Hubbard”

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Guest speakers: Myron Stolaroff and Gary Fisher

The following is my video recording of this talk.

PROGRAM NOTES:

This is a conversation that took place between Myron Stolaroff, Gary Fisher, and a group of friends at the legendary salon that Kathleen hosted on the third Friday of every month in Venice Beach, California.

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Podcast 200 – “A Few Words From Our Elders”

Guest speakers: Gary Fisher, Sasha Shulgin, Ann Shulgin, Myron Stolaroff, Baba Ram Das, Timothy Leary, and Terence McKenna

PROGRAM NOTES:

SASHA SHULGIN:
“So I looked upon these materials as being catalytic, not productive, they do not do what occurs, they allow you to express what is in you that you had not had the ability to get into and express yourself without the help of the material.”
Scanned image of the copy of Saint Veronica's Veil that was used at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Menlo Park, CA during psychedelic research sessions in the 1960s.
“My main argument for continuing to use the term [psychedelic] is that people may not approve of what you’re working in or what you’re saying, but at least they know what you’re talking about.”

ANN SHULGIN:
“My interest in these compounds is that they let you open up the doors inside your own psyche. They allow things to be more obvious, more apparent than the conscious mind usually lets them be.”

“The psychedelics, the visionary plants, allow you to do deeper looking and a different kind of learning, because what comes to you is a different sort of knowledge.”

“The ’shadow work’ is, perhaps, the most important use of these materials, as far as I’m concerned, that there is. Because it’s in opening up the shadow and discovering it’s not a monster, that it’s not a terrible, horrible beast, that it is the uncultivated, the unsophisticated and slightly, sometimes, unlawful part of ourselves, which can be one of our greatest allies as long as we can find the courage to do the work necessary to discover it and become one with it and to negotiate with it.”

“I consider them [psychedelics] basically spiritual tools.”

BABA RAM DAS:
“The place we share is that place that stands nowhere, not the place that’s caught in these spirals that involve intellectual advance, or ‘Now we know it!’, and so on. That’s all like little ripples on the ocean.”

“The Great Way is not difficult for those who have no preferences. When love and hate are absent, everything becomes clear and undisguised.”

TIMOTHY LEARY:
“…neuro-geography that tells us that where you are determines who you are, habitat determines species.”

“We are literally at a position where collectively, working in harmony, we can do most of the things, and take the responsibilities, which in the past have been attributed to the great deities of the past. I think the Golden Age is ahead. It’s the age of humanist science, humanist technology, pagan science, pagan technology, high tech, high touch.”

“I think it’s our duty as explorers and as frontier scouts for our species to invent new terminology. … I really feel that words are tremendously important. . . . We’ve got to develop a new terminology. We simply can’t use the language that has been around for three or four thousand years because more people have been killed in the name of god that any other word around.”

TERENCE MCKENNA:
“Well somebody once asked me, you know, “Is it dangerous?” And the answer is, only if you fear death by astonishment.”

“Do not give way to astonishment! Do not abandon yourself to wonder! Get a grip! Try to get a grip, and notice what we’re doing! Pay attention!” – this is the mantra: “Pay attention! Pay attention!”

“On DMT, these entities – these machine-like, diminutive, shape-shifting, faceted machine elf type creatures that come bounding out of the state – they come bounding out of my stereo speakers, if I have my eyes open – they are like, you know, they are elfin embodiments of syntactical intent. Somehow syntax, which is normally the invisible architecture behind language, has moved into the foreground. And you can see it! I mean, it’s doing calisthenics and acrobatics in front of you! It’s crawling all over you! And what’s happened is that your categories have been scrambled, or something; and this thing which is normally supposed to be invisible and in the background and an abstraction has come forward and is doing handsprings right in front of you. And the thing makes linguistic objects; it sheds syntactical objectification. So that it comes towards you – they come toward you – they divide, they merge, they’re bounding, they’re screaming, they’re squeaking – and they hold out objects, which they sing into existence, or which they pull out of some other place. And these things are, you know, like jewels and lights, but also like consommé and old farts and yesterday and high speed; in other words, they are made of juxtapositions of qualities that are impossible in three-dimensional space. What they’re like is – and in fact, this is probably what they are – what they’re like is, they’re like three- and four- and five-dimensional puns. And you know how the pleasure of a pun lies in the fact that it is… it’s not that the meaning flickers from A to B; it’s that it’s simultaneously A and B, and when the pun is really funny it’s an A,B,C,D pun; and it’s simultaneously all these things… well, that quality, which in our experience can only occur to an acoustical output or a glyph which stands for an acoustical output – in other words, a printed pun – in the DMT world, objects can do this. Objects can simultaneously manifest more than one nature at once. And, like a pun, the result is always funny. It’s amusing! You cannot help but be delighted by this thing doing this thing.”

“History is a con game run by frightened men and their obedient stooges.”

“The transformation of culture through art is the proper understanding of what you can do with psychedelics besides blow your own mind.”

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Podcast 156 – “Treating Childhood Schizophrenia with Psychedelics”

Guest speakers: Gary Fisher and Charlie Grob

PROGRAM NOTES:

In 1963, Dr. Gary Fisher wrote a paper titled

Interim report on Research project:
An Investigation to Determine Therapeutic Effectiveness of
LSD-25 and Psilocybin on Hospitalized
Severely Emotionally Disturbed Children

(This link will take you to the full report.)

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Podcast 098 – “Psychedelic Research in the 1960s” (Part 2)

Guest speaker: Gary Fisher

PROGRAM NOTES:

(Minutes : Seconds into program)
04:20 Gary tells about his encounter with an extraterrestrial.

07:11 Stories of another encounter with otherworldly entities, this time in the desert.

09:40 The story about a man who always longed for a UFO experience.

11:36 Gary tells why he thinks extraterrestrials are visiting the Earth.

14:33 Gary tells the story of when Timothy Leary was driving him to their compound in Mexico, and Gary suddenly had an intuition that reflected back to both a psilocybin experience and a past life experience.

17:07 Gary Fisher: “In the esoteric world those are called ’sleeping karmas’, and you’ll run into a person who’s happy all the time, everything goes well for them. They don’t have any hysterics in their life, and they’re having sleeping karma. They just come in to relax.”

18:15 Gary tells the story of his Caribbean adventure with Tim Leary and company.

26:55 Beginning of a discussion about Alan Watts and the time he went to Mexico for a psychedelic mushroom session with Maria Sabina and ended up getting married to Mary Jane on the spur of the moment.

29:46 Gary Fisher: “At one dinner this very proper lady said, ‘Well Doctor Watts, what do you hope to gain from your next experience with LSD?’, and Alan said, ‘Another book!’ “

35:29 We begin a brief discussion of Tim Leary. . . . Gary Fisher: “Well, he was a drunken Irishman with a silver tongue. . . . He wanted to be rich, and he wanted to be famous. Those were his two goals in life.”

44:26 Gary discusses several issues relating to the age at which it may be appropriate to begin using psychedelics.

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Podcast 097 – “Psychedelic Research in the 1960s” (Part 1)

Guest speaker: Gary Fisher

PROGRAM NOTES:

(Minutes : Seconds into program)
Our conversation began by looking at photos of some of Gary’s former students, patients, and famous friends.

13:12 We begin a discussion of Gary’s work in the 1960s with severely emotionally disturbed children suffering from variants of childhood schizophrenia and infantile autism who he treated with LSD and psilocybin.

16:36 Al Hubbard is discussed

18:23 Gary Fisher: “All our model was from Hubbard, because Hubbard was the guy who taught my brother-in-law and Duncan Blewett. . . . He was the father of all this stuff. . . . He was the one who introduced Osmond and Hoffer to this whole approach.”

25:45 Gary provides more details about his work with the severely disturbed children, beginning with the story of Nancy’s nearly miraculous improvement after being treated with LSD.

35:59 Gary describes the deplorable conditions in the public hospital wards where severely disturbed children were being held.

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will take you to several articles by Dr. Fisher that have been posted on the Web stie of the Albert Hofmann Foundationin The Gary Fisher Collection:

Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia Utilizing LSD and Psilocybin
by Gary Fisher, Ph.D.

A Note of the Successful Outcome of a Single Dose LSD Experience in a Patient Suffering from Grand Mal Epilepsy
Gary Fisher, Ph.D.

Some Comments Concerning Dosage Levels Of Psychedelic Compounds For Psychotherapeutic Experiences [Print-friendly copy]
by Gary Fisher, Ph.D.

Death, Identity, and Creativity
by Gary Fisher, Ph.D.

Successful Outcome of a Single LSD Treatment in a Chronically Dysfunctional Man
by Gary Fisher, Ph.D.

The Psychotherapeutic Use Of Psychodysleptic Drugs
by Gary Fisher, Ph.D. and Joyce Martin M.D.

Psychotherapy for the Dying:
Principles and Illustrative Cases with Special Reference to the use of LSD

by Gary Fisher, Ph.D.; Assistant Professor, Division of Behavioral Sciences and Health Education, School of Public Health. University of California, Los Angeles

Counter-Transference Issues in Psychedelic Psychotherapy
by Gary Fisher, PH.D

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Podcast 015 – “Treating Childhood Schizophrenia With LSD and Psilocybin”

Guest speaker: Gary Fisher

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The description of Gary Fisher’s work with the amazing little girl, Nancy, is what the title of this podcast refers to. However, the conversation also covers a wide range of other topics, including: an amazing cancer cure involving ayahuasca, early psychedelic research, and the first scientific paper to discuss what is now called poly-drugging.

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