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Podcast 234 – “The World Soul”

Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake

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“I think that creativity depends on having sufficient indeterminacy around for a new pattern to arise up within it.” Rupert Sheldrake

When asked if he believed in randomness, Terence quickly said, “No,” and then he went on to say, “Randomness is the least likely thing. Nowhere in nature do you encounter it.”

“If there is no randomness in the universe, then what do we mean by chaos?” -Rupert Sheldrake

“Not thinking about the World Soul but the individual soul, that the seizure of DMT is almost like a simulacrum of death itself, and that you seem to see into an ecology of souls.Terence McKenna

“The World Soul, I think, is in communication with us in the culminating moment of human history. This is all being scripted for a purpose and toward an end unglimpsed by us but tied up with the survival of everything.” -Terence McKenna

“Tourism is a kind of secularized form of pilgrimage.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“At the root of many problems is the denial of the problem and the fact that we maintain unconsciousness of the problem.” Ralph Abraham

“I hold monotheism responsible for the mess that we’re in from Abraham right on down to the present moment. I think it is the metaphor which is responsible for the dominator break-out, and that until we get a more polytheistic, nature-oriented conception of reality we will be pretty much under the gun.-Terence McKenna

“For my money, monotheism is the single most reactionary force in all of human history. I don’t even know what is running second.” -Terence McKenna

“Democracy is a step away from anarchy.” -Terence McKenna

“Perhaps to unify consciousness it isn’t a Western hemisphere goddess we need but simply a recognition of Gaia.” -Terence McKenna

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Podcast 230-Trialogue: “The Evolutionary Mind” Part 3

Guest speakers: Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake, Terence McKenna

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“Who would talk about the evolutionary mind? Who cares about the good and evil in the evolution of species, and so on? This must be interesting only to the degree to which it informs us in this very present moment regarding our choices that we will make in the creation of our future.” -Ralph Abraham

“In a dynamical system, or a massively complex dynamical system such as we live in, when there is a moment of bifurcation, which is the technical mass jargon for “the snap”, that is the only time you get to do anything about the evolution of the system. So according to this self-inflating view, we live at an especially important special moment in history where when we think something or do something it has actually an enormous effect on the future. … What we do has some influence on the creation of the future more than at other times in history.” -Ralph Abraham

“The edge of the millennium, any edge of any of the millennia, is particularly important to those revolutionary souls who want to make a change in things. It is a special time.” -Ralph Abraham

“Salvation is an act of cognitive apprehension.” -Terence McKenna

“This is a moment of enormous opportunity, and those who find themselves in this moment with power, defined however you care to define it, have a moral obligation to act. … What we must become is clear.” -Terence McKenna

“To the degree that we can change our minds we will escape extinction.” -Terence McKenna

“If you charge off with some political agenda that is not informed by clarity you’re going to end up with business as usual. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it is not paved with clarity.” -Terence McKenna

“I certainly agree that for me personally, psychedelic experience has enhanced clarity, whereas some people think the opposite.” -Ralph Abraham

“I think that grass root research, based on phenomena that are actually common sense, that are part of everyday life for many people, could help to wake us up, to give a greater clarity about what’s really going on, and make us recognize that there’s far more interconnection between us and other species, and us and other people, than is admitted in the scientific view of things, which is the world view which most people feel they have permission to talk about in public.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“What we’re saying is that we must dissolve the artificial boundaries that confine our perceptions. Someone once said, ‘If we could feel what we are doing to the Earth we would stop immediately.’ . . . So we have compartmentalized our lives, and this allows us to do the fateful and lethal work that is destroying the planet, destroying communities, and so forth.” -Terence McKenna

“Culture is a scheme for maintaining and creating boundaries. It replaces reality with a linguistically supported delusion.” -Terence McKenna

“As long as we believe in mind and matter, rich and poor, living and dead, aboriginal and advanced, black and white, man and woman, then we’re inevitably going to carry on a dualistic analysis of our dilemma, and we’re going to produce incomplete agendas and answers.” -Terence McKenna

“The great evil that has been allowed to flourish in the absence of mathematical understanding is relativism. And what is relativism? It’s the idea that there is no distinction between shit and Shinola. That all ideas are somehow operating on equal footing.” -Terence McKenna

“The enemy that will really subvert the enterprise of building a world based on clarity is the belief that we cannot point out the pernicious forms of idiocy that flourish in our own community.” -Terence McKenna

“Yes, well it is an ambitious enterprise, and fraught with contradiction, but forward, ever forward!” -Terence McKenna

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Podcast 229-Trialogue: “The Evolutionary Mind” Part 2

Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake

PROGRAM NOTES:

[NOTE: The following quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“Because of this fact, that clear thinking can be mathematically formalized, there is a potential bridge between ourselves and calculating machinery.”

“Good thinking, whether you’ve ever studied mathematics for a moment or not, can be formally defined.”

“What is important about nature is that it is information. And the real tension is not between matter and spirit, or time and space, the real tension is between information and nonsense.”

“As our understanding of the machinery, the genetic machinery that supports organic being deepens, and as our ability to manipulate at the atomic and molecular level also proceeds apace, we are on the brink of the possible emergence of some kind of alien intelligence of a sort we did not anticipate.”

“Vast amounts of the world that we call human is already under the control of artificial intelligences, including very vital parts of our political and social dynamo.”

“While we’ve been waiting for the Palaidians to descend, or for the Face on Mars to be confirmed, all the machines around us, the cybernetic devices around us in the past ten years have quietly crossed the threshold into telepathy.”

“[Artificial intelligence,] this most bizzare and most unexpected of all companions to our historical journey is now, if not already in existence, then certainly in gestation.”

“Time is defined by how much goes on in a given moment, and we’re learning how to push tetraflops of operations into a given second.”

“Surely in a hundred years, a thousand years, a million years we, if we exist, will be utterly unrecognizeable to ourselves, and we will probably still be worried about preserving and enhancing the quality of human values.”

[NOTE: The following quotations are by Ralph Abraham.]

“The very fact that we are at a hinge of history means that what we say and think, even individually, matters enormously in the long run. That’s the teaching, if there is any, of chaos theory.”

“In the creation of societies it was altruism, essentially, that was involved in going from where we were to where we are, and it could well be that without love, for example, further evolution is impossible.”

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Podcast 228-Trialogue: “The Evolutionary Mind” Part 1

Guest speakers: Rupert Sheldrake, Ralph Abraham, and Terence McKenna

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“The development of current brain size is not the reason that there has been this explosion of technical innovation recently. Brain size hasn’t changed much for 100,000 years.-Rupert Sheldrake

“It’s much more likely that for most of human history it was not man the huntER but man the huntED. … It wasn’t until about 50,000 years ago that there was an improvement in hunting technologies all around the world, whereby human beings could indeed become fairly effective hunters. But for most of the three and a half million years of hominid history it was man the huntED.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“The shaman is a person, a designated member of the social group, who can mentally change into an animal, who can become so animal-like that other members of the social group are appalled and draw back.-Terence McKenna

“The domain in which the change [from animal to human] was born, and in which we will live until we leave the body behind us, is the domain of the imagination. And this is what we created that is uniquely human and that has defined us ever since.” -Terence McKenna

“You don’t need to go straight beyond the universe to the divine mind, there’s plenty of lower-level minds than the divine mind that could be out there.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“My notion of the mystical is simply that which remains to be understood, and there will always be a residuum of mystery in principle, but in principle it is not mysterious.” -Terence McKenna [Rupert disagreed with this.]

“The idea that this evolution’s equipped us with minds, and language, and cognitive abilities that enable us to comprehend the entire universe, where it’s come from, where it’s going, what minds and mind may lie beyond what we see, the idea that this very small part of the evolutionary system, with all the limitations inherent in it, could comprehend the whole seems to me a rather improbable supposition.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“It’s not decided what’s going to happen next, there are imaginations of many levels, including human imaginations, at work here, looking at alternative possibilities. New things happen, and then what happens next depends on what’s happened already and the new possibilities of imagination that open up, but without the goal being fixed in advance.” -Rupert Sheldrake

“[Evolution] is a game, one of the rules of which is: The rules can change.” -Terence McKenna

“Time is not a tyranny. It’s a relativistic medium subject to all kinds of plasticity. There are many ways out of any assumed corner we paint ourselves into.” -Terence McKenna

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Podcast 170 – “How the Web Looked Back in 1994″

Guest speakers: Ralph Abraham, Terence McKenna, and Rupert Sheldrake

PROGRAM NOTES:

All of the following quotations are from a private trialogue held at Terence McKenna’s me in Hawaii sometime in 1994.

“I believe that the World Wide Web is, as a matter of fact, the noogenesis of the noosphere of the future. This is it!” –Ralph Abraham

“Notice that throughout history the most oppressed group has not been the Jews, the Irish, the blacks, they’ve taken their hits, but the most consistently oppressed group of people throughout human history have been smart people. And now comes a tool for smart people [the Internet] utterly incomprehensible to dullards, that is essentially the equivalent of the hydrogen bomb.” –Terence McKenna

“Chaotic as the Web is, what it is is a controlled psychedelic experience spreading through the populace at the highest levels of intelligentsia.” –Terence McKenna

“What it [the Internet] will be in the future will depend on what kind of people with whatever motives would actually go there.” –Ralph Abraham

“I think it’s [the Internet] built into the evolutionary morphogenetic unfolding of the cosmos in that it could no more be stopped than mitocondria or societal organization.”–Terence McKenna

“I think it [the Internet] will supersede us. I don’t know how much monkey meat will be connected to the World Wide Web when the Web is complete. It may shed the monkey meat.”–Terence McKenna

“The population explosion could end, let’s say, because of the World Wide Web. This is my greatest dream.” –Ralph Abraham

“Nature is a world wide web. That was the first world wide web.” –Terence McKenna

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Podcasts 19 (Part 1) & 20 (Part 2)
“The World Wide Web and the Millennium”
a conversation between
Terence McKenna and Ralph Abraham
(August 1998)

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Podcast 168 – “What Hawaii Says About Evolution”

Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake

PROGRAM NOTES:

All of the following quotations are from a private trialogue held at Terence McKenna’s home in Hawaii sometime in 1994.

[NOTE: The following quotations are by Terence McKenna.]

“I think what life on islands brings home to us is that Earth itself is an island.”

“I think the technological principle on which the next century [21st] will operate is a mimicking of nature, solid-state, micro-miniaturized, solar-based, no moving parts, and so forth.”

“Any theory which has us gathering together in large crowds to chant should look back at the Third Reich before it proceeds too far with its agenda.”

“America is a cultural bulldozer. It just tramples and destroys everything in its path.”

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Podcast 161 – “Reality Check”

Guest speakers: Ralph Abraham, Rupert Sheldrake, and Terence McKenna

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"Chaos, Gaia, Eros"  by Ralph Abraham“We have the concept of the ideal city in the ancient world, most especially the ideal city of Plato’s Republic. So casually we might call that Utopian fantasy. Although Plato did try to actually realize it in the political organization of a particular city. He ended up in jail for that effort. Another thing to kind of keep in the back of your mind as we choose whether or not to associate with this particular strand of the human endeavor [utopianism].”Ralph Abraham

"The Rebirth of Nature" by Rupert Sheldrake“A restoration of the sense of the life of nature could lead to a new society in which heaven and Earth are mediated through human beings. Human beings would be the mediator of the marriage of heaven and Earth to bring about a harmonious relationship at the whole of nature on this Earth, somehow bringing human society into a right relationship between the Earth and the heavens.” Rupert Sheldrake

“If you restrict yourself to the realm of the rational, then you only have two choices: utopia or more history. And more history is beginning to look less and less likely.” Terence McKenna

“I see all these Christian fundamentalists running around, they also believe in the millennium. And they are the major anti-progressive force in most advanced societies.” –Terence McKenna

"Food of the Gods" by Terence McKenna“We have the money, the scientific knowledge, the communications systems and so forth to solve any of our problems, feeding the hungry, curing disease, halting the destruction of the environment. The problem is our minds, that we cannot change our minds as quickly as we can redesign harbors, flatten mountains, cut rain forests, dam rivers, these things pose no problem. Changing our minds is very difficult.” –Terence McKenna

“We represent the individual atoms that are flowing together to make the transcendental object at the end of time.” –Terence McKenna

“The historical record does not support the eschaton.” –Ralph Abraham

 

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Podcast 149 – “The Heavens”

Guest speakers: Rupert Sheldrake, Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham

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“The Gaia Hypothesis of James Lovelock [and Lynn Margulis] puts forward a scientific view of the living Earth, which in one respect is modern, empherical, scientific, in another respect re-awakens an ancient archetype, which in fact is so clearly suggested by the very name of the hypothesis, Gaia, the Greek name for Mother Earth.” –Rupert Sheldrake

"The Rebirth of Nature" by Rupert Sheldrake[Speaking of the past:] “So there’s a kind of resurgence of the sense of freedom and spontaneity in nature. From nature being bound into a rigid, deterministic model, freedom, spontaneity and openness are emerging once again. It’s now recognized the future is open, not determined by the past. And this is true in many realms, the astronomical realm, the human realm, the meteorological realm in many ways.” –Rupert Sheldrake

“The basic idea I’m proposing is that the so-called ‘Laws of Nature’ may be more like habits. They may depend on what’s happened before and on how often it’s happened. So there may be a cumulative memory in nature, largely unconscious, which gives rise to habits and things, which accounts for the stability of nature as we know it. But this is not all governed by eternal laws that were there at the Big Bang.” –Rupert Sheldrake

"A New Science of Life" by Rupert Sheldrake“The English couldn’t bear this void for long, caused by the suppression of pilgrimage [by the Protestant Reformation], and within a few generations had invented tourism, which is best seen as a form of secularized pilgrimage.” –Rupert Sheldrake

“I think a great move forward would happen when astronomy and astrology link up once again.” –Rupert Sheldrake

“If the Sun has a kind of consciousness, then what about the entire galaxy, with this mysterious center?” –Rupert Sheldrake

“What we call the imagination is actually the universal library of what is real, that you couldn’t imagine it if it weren’t real, somewhere, sometime. And that to me is very empowering because that’s the truth that you learn at the center of the psychedelic experience that’s so mind boggling that you can’t really return with it, that it’s real.” –Terence McKenna

“Now it’s time to realize that trying to reason upward from the laws of atomic physics to organism is not going to work. That there are … emergent properties at every level.” –Terence McKenna

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Galaxy Map Hints at Fractal Universe

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Podcast 143 – “Rethinking Society”

Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake

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[Quoting a friend] ” ‘The apocalypse is already happening.’ The slow apocalypse is unraveling all over the world.” –Terence McKenna

“If it’s all on automatic, if the world is either undergoing some kind of mass extinction and soul migration into the Elysium realm, then very little has to be done. If, on the other hand, it isn’t on automatic then what is the nature of the political and social world that we should construct for ourselves and our children?” –Terence McKenna

“What we have is a future-phobic society that places a great deal of stress on the preservation of a pseudo-tradition called “Family Values” by some people, but it has many names. It’s not an archaic social model, or anything rooted in long-term human organization. It’s basically the 19th century industrial model of the couple with some children fitted into an industrial economy.” –Terence McKenna

“It seems to me that a whole re-thinking of the notion of freedom has to come, and that it isn’t strictly a matter of more freedom.” –Terence McKenna

“I think we’re going to have to go back to Plato. Plato did not trust the poets, and the heirs of the poets in our hell bard are Madison Avenue.” –Terence McKenna

“The interesting ideas have to do with touching the taboos.”–Terence McKenna

Image from the Mayan Vindo Codex and a restored version by Higinio“I’m basically an optimist, but not because I have faith in human institutions. But because I think there is a transcendental attractor that will eventually pull our chestnuts out of the fire.” –Terence McKenna

“I do believe that history is the proof of the presence of a hyperdimensional something or other, which is acting on ordinary biology.” –Terence McKenna

“The government follows. It doesn’t lead. We need leadership now, and leadership comes from people, that’s us.” –Ralph Abraham

“We’re not being led by evil people. We’re being led by jackasses at this point.” –Terence McKenna

“Pretending that this catastrophe [a coming global ice age] is not probable will almost certainly guarantee that it takes place real soon.” -Ralph Abraham

“Let’s avoid the disease of denial, because if we don’t admit a problem then there is no solution.” –Ralph Abraham

“What free trade means is the right to sell crap everywhere. The right to deal Coca Cola in Afghanistan, that’s what free trade is, the right to sell Volvos in Turkmenistan. It’s a bad idea, free trade. We don’t want to make trade easier. We want to make the manufacture of objects and excruciatingly expensive process and the moving of them from one market to another damn near impossible, because what we want is the de-materialization of culture.” –Terence McKenna

“The Great Leveling, which the Left always called for has in fact taken place in part, and that’s why you have less money. When the leveling took place did you think it was going to kick back into your pocketbook? You haven’t visited Bangladesh recently.” –Terence McKenna

“The Nation State has become a Fascist tool, all Nation States. What these companies stand for is unbridled gangsterism.” –Terence McKenna

“What we need to do is dematerialize our interphasing with nature. If we’re going to keep the body then we have to jettison material culture. We cannot have both the body and material culture.” –Terence McKenna

“Yes, I think that we’re going to a grand destiny, and that the planet will survive this, but consciousness is the flashlight to throw on the path.” –Terence McKenna

“History is an agitation in biology that proceeds the Eschaton, and it only takes it 25,000 years to rise out of the sea of chaos.” –Terence McKenna

“Love is what lies at the end of the historical descent into novelty. It has to be.” –Terence McKenna

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Podcast 141 – “Contemplating a Visual Psychedelic Language”

Guest speakers: Ralph Abraham, Terence McKenna, and Rupert Sheldrake

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“I think that any models [of the psychedelic experience] that we can build, verbal, visual, or mathematical are really, really feeble compared to the experience itself.” –Ralph Abraham

“It’s the Logos-world that we’ve lost the connection with.” –Terence McKenna

“I think the difference between a representation of the [psychedelic] state and being in the state itself is the sense of meaning, engagement, and intensity.” –Rupert Sheldrake

“When language became something acoustically processed it became so bloodless that it became then the willing servant of abstraction, which before had been an exotic and little explored branch of linguistic activity, that suddenly burgeoned into the major concern of a lot of people.” –Ralph Abraham

“I regard language as some kind of project that is uncompleted as we sit here. . . . Clearly, the whole world is held together by small mouth noises, and it’s only BARELY held together by small mouth noises.” –Terence McKenna

“If you buy in to the idea that psychedelics somehow are showing you the evolutionary path yet to be followed, then it seems obvious that what it entails is a further completion of the project of language.” –Terence McKenna

“The intellectuals, unfortunately, at the top of the pyramid are the last to get the news. They’re still pouring over Locke, and Hegel when what’s really happening is Guns n Roses and Nirvana, and I don’t mean the Buddhist state of transcendence. . . . So culture tends to be ruled by the people who are the last to get the news in terms of new technologies which are reshaping the culture.” –TerenceMcKenna

“Literacy is finished. It was a phase. It’s not to be preserved by anyone other than curators. The rest of us are going to live, obviously, in a culture shaped by new forms of media.” –Terence McKenna

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