Podcast 065 – “Chaos and Imagination” (Part 1)


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Guest speakers: Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake

PROGRAM NOTES:

(Minutes : Seconds into program)

02:29 Ralph Abraham“So I should like now to speak about the chaos
of ordinary life and the relationship of this chaos to the imagination.”

05:41 Ralph:
“Chaos, Gaia, and Eros are the gods, or concepts, of the primitive types.”

13:56 Ralph:
“People have a resistance to their own creative imagination, and I’m suggesting that this resistance has a mythological base.”

20:55 Terence McKenna“Chaos is feminine. Chaos is intuitional. Chaos has a very flirtatious relationship with language.”

22:16 Terence:
“The birthright that connects us to the divine is our poetic capacity, our ability to resonate with an idea of ideal beauty and to create that which transcends our own understanding in the form of art through the imagination.” . . . “We have a secret history. Knowledge of which has been lost to us and only now is recoverable . . . ” . . . “We are the victims of an instance of traumatic abuse in childhood as a species.”

24:34 Terence:
“Once we lived in dynamic balance with nature, not as animals do, but as human beings only could but in a way that we have now lost.” . . . and then he explains what it is that we have lost and how it was lost.

27:46 Terence:
“There are certain episodes in the life of a female which are guaranteed to be boundary dissolving.”

29:00
Terence:
“The beginning of wisdom, I believe, is the ability to accept an inherent messiness in your explanation of what’s going on.” . . . “For me, the creative act is the letting down of the net of human imagination into the ocean of chaos on which we are suspended and the attempt to bring out of it ideas.”

32:37 Terence:
“For me the imagination is the goal of history. I see culture as an effort to literally realize our collective dreams.”

37:30 Terence:
“There will come a moment which will be an absolute leap into space, and we will simply have to have the faith that there is something waiting there, because the dominator style has left us no choice.”

45:01 Terence:
“Fear it is that guards the vineyard.” . . . “So the fear of the psychedelic experience is quite literally the fear of losing control.”

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